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RedSplat
Posted - 2009.05.08 09:33:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Tarac Nor
interceptors speedtanked to oblivion and stealth bombers



The Ranis is actually pretty damn slow. The fact is Transwarp shouldn't be losing ships at all to interceptor gangs.

As for the stealthbombers, get an Sensor boosted Arazu on the field and only uncloak it when a SB arrives on grid and decloaks.

Originally by: Tarac Nor
Just pointing out not all of us cry over broken spaceships.



Dont do that, it takes all the fun out of the thread Wink

Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
Posted - 2009.05.08 09:36:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Suitonia
You had 2 Thanatos, 2 Dominix, Crow, Onyx, Harbinger, 2 Zealots and a Megathron on your entrance gate.


This will always be pointless, trying to talk reason into people who think their opponents are NPCs that have nothing better to do than jump few t2 frigs into a capital-backed camp and get killed, just like all those sansha's loyal slavehunters or whatever other thing they've been shooting for their entire eve existance. Very Happy

Generally speaking from my experience with dealing with larger yet less competent groups, for them you are always the coward. So what if 18 of them were docked or hugging station while 3 of you were ganking 1 of their buddies, it was 3 vs 1 and you suck, you just gank, cowards! Why dont you... um.... come to that station and.... stuff! With battleships! Laughing

Tarac Nor
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.05.08 09:43:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Tarac Nor
interceptors speedtanked to oblivion and stealth bombers



The Ranis is actually pretty damn slow. The fact is Transwarp shouldn't be losing ships at all to interceptor gangs.

As for the stealthbombers, get an Sensor boosted Arazu on the field and only uncloak it when a SB arrives on grid and decloaks.

Originally by: Tarac Nor
Just pointing out not all of us cry over broken spaceships.



Dont do that, it takes all the fun out of the thread Wink


lol, you win, it is rather funny from all sides. We only loose ships when we dont gang, it the duh factor, people complain that we gang up, well thats sorta what you do when you have ceptors and bombers in a system, if your by yourself you get done over pretty quick.

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.05.08 09:56:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Tarac Nor

lol, you win, it is rather funny from all sides. We only loose ships when we dont gang, it the duh factor, people complain that we gang up, well thats sorta what you do when you have ceptors and bombers in a system, if your by yourself you get done over pretty quick.


What i want to see happen (or rather what i think will be amusing) is for Genos to invite every Pirate corp they have contacts with (Hint: rather a lot) into a heavy gang and smash a camp. Very Happy

Tarac Nor
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:03:00 - [95]
 

Edited by: Tarac Nor on 08/05/2009 10:05:10
Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Tarac Nor

lol, you win, it is rather funny from all sides. We only loose ships when we dont gang, it the duh factor, people complain that we gang up, well thats sorta what you do when you have ceptors and bombers in a system, if your by yourself you get done over pretty quick.


What i want to see happen (or rather what i think will be amusing) is for Genos to invite every Pirate corp they have contacts with (Hint: rather a lot) into a heavy gang and smash a camp. Very Happy


And the cycle continues just in reverse, instead of us ganging and them hiding, it would be us hiding waiting for help and them ganging, if it wasn't a fair fight would you stick around??? That is what they do, its what we would do and its probably what most people in the eve universe would do.

Hercules Strongarm
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:06:00 - [96]
 

I like Nexus, he should be unbanned.

*plays some Coldplay*

Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:08:00 - [97]
 

What an amusing thread Smile

The fact is that Genos are pretty effective at what they do which is mainly ganking idiots who aren't paying attention.

Their strategy consists primarily of flying around in Inties and SBs and they generally base in one specific pipe into Provi.

They have alts in all the systems leading into said pipe so and are unwilling to engage any target which poses a real threat to them (which is of course pretty smart).

Genos are very good at choosing which targets pose a threat to them and which don't. As a result they tend to pick off half arsed (wrong ships/wrong equipment) gangs and do it well. Unfortunately Provi is home to many people who dont always pay attention to intel channels and many people underestimate the damage that a combined SB/Inty gang can deliver!

However, lets move on to the larger picture. Genos tend to operate in one specific area - which gives them ample opportunity to escape to hi-sec when proper gangs go chasing them. They do roam a bit but in general there activity is limited to about 3 systems.

The nature of their gangs means that while its hard to pin them down they do not actually interdict anything with a decent escort and so, while a nuisance (particularly for solo travellers and traders) they do not pose any real threat to the integrity of Providence or to those who actually pay attention to intel channels.

Genos are good at what they do which is maximising their killboard efficiencies however do not assume that their ability to gank unwary travellers and illprepared gangs and then run away is in any way indicative of CVA's ability to defend the region from more substantial threats.

As for Aralis' Legion well - good kill. Aralis has a nickname in the CVA - 'Rambo' - primarily because he has a 'gung ho' attitude and jumps into situations and fights where the odds are against him. Hell he has managed to lose 8 Carriers and 2 Dreads doing similar things. However, anyone who knows Aralis, will also know that he is more than capable of funding a 'legion' of Legions Wink

As for Genos, well, well done (for now) Twisted Evil

Tarac Nor
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:25:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Hardin
What an amusing thread Smile

The fact is that Genos are pretty effective at what they do which is mainly ganking idiots who aren't paying attention.

Their strategy consists primarily of flying around in Inties and SBs and they generally base in one specific pipe into Provi.

They have alts in all the systems leading into said pipe so and are unwilling to engage any target which poses a real threat to them (which is of course pretty smart).

Genos are very good at choosing which targets pose a threat to them and which don't. As a result they tend to pick off half arsed (wrong ships/wrong equipment) gangs and do it well. Unfortunately Provi is home to many people who dont always pay attention to intel channels and many people underestimate the damage that a combined SB/Inty gang can deliver!

However, lets move on to the larger picture. Genos tend to operate in one specific area - which gives them ample opportunity to escape to hi-sec when proper gangs go chasing them. They do roam a bit but in general there activity is limited to about 3 systems.

The nature of their gangs means that while its hard to pin them down they do not actually interdict anything with a decent escort and so, while a nuisance (particularly for solo travellers and traders) they do not pose any real threat to the integrity of Providence or to those who actually pay attention to intel channels.

Genos are good at what they do which is maximising their killboard efficiencies however do not assume that their ability to gank unwary travellers and illprepared gangs and then run away is in any way indicative of CVA's ability to defend the region from more substantial threats.

As for Aralis' Legion well - good kill. Aralis has a nickname in the CVA - 'Rambo' - primarily because he has a 'gung ho' attitude and jumps into situations and fights where the odds are against him. Hell he has managed to lose 8 Carriers and 2 Dreads doing similar things. However, anyone who knows Aralis, will also know that he is more than capable of funding a 'legion' of Legions Wink

As for Genos, well, well done (for now) Twisted Evil


what he said

Kristina Trepkas
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:40:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Hardin
What an amusing thread Smile

The fact is that Genos are pretty effective at what they do which is mainly ganking idiots who aren't paying attention.

Their strategy consists primarily of flying around in Inties and SBs and they generally base in one specific pipe into Provi.

They have alts in all the systems leading into said pipe so and are unwilling to engage any target which poses a real threat to them (which is of course pretty smart).

Genos are very good at choosing which targets pose a threat to them and which don't. As a result they tend to pick off half arsed (wrong ships/wrong equipment) gangs and do it well. Unfortunately Provi is home to many people who dont always pay attention to intel channels and many people underestimate the damage that a combined SB/Inty gang can deliver!

However, lets move on to the larger picture. Genos tend to operate in one specific area - which gives them ample opportunity to escape to hi-sec when proper gangs go chasing them. They do roam a bit but in general there activity is limited to about 3 systems.

The nature of their gangs means that while its hard to pin them down they do not actually interdict anything with a decent escort and so, while a nuisance (particularly for solo travellers and traders) they do not pose any real threat to the integrity of Providence or to those who actually pay attention to intel channels.

Genos are good at what they do which is maximising their killboard efficiencies however do not assume that their ability to gank unwary travellers and illprepared gangs and then run away is in any way indicative of CVA's ability to defend the region from more substantial threats.

As for Aralis' Legion well - good kill. Aralis has a nickname in the CVA - 'Rambo' - primarily because he has a 'gung ho' attitude and jumps into situations and fights where the odds are against him. Hell he has managed to lose 8 Carriers and 2 Dreads doing similar things. However, anyone who knows Aralis, will also know that he is more than capable of funding a 'legion' of Legions Wink

As for Genos, well, well done (for now) Twisted Evil


ITT - Rolepalyers attempting to save face.

Sidephex
I.M.M
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:42:00 - [100]
 

genos is obviously doing it wrong! :(

Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:45:00 - [101]
 

Edited by: Hardin on 08/05/2009 10:50:06

What a fun thread. Smile

Firstly I will state that Genos are good at what they do. The mainly fly Inties and SBs and only engage targets which they can pretty safely gank. They are very good at identifying targets which pose a threat and which can be engaged reasonably safely.

They are basing mainly in about 2/3 systems on the edge of Hi-Sec and they have alts in all the surrounding systems which means that they are aware of potential threats very early and can decide whether or not they want to engage. The nature of their ships means they only have to engage when they want to and locking down Inties and SBs aint exactly easy if they have advance notice of incoming hostiles. Basically they are using simple 'hit 'n run' tactics and doing everything they can to minimise their own losses - which is pretty smart if you are one of those 'KB Efficiency = length of **** size' types of corps.

However, lets look at the larger picture.

While Genos are a nuisance, particularly for solo pilots/traders travelling through those specific systems (which can easily be bypassed) their 'light' nature means they cannot really interdict anyone travelling with a decent escort in the right ships!

Similarly their movements are also well advertised so people who are paying attention in the relevant channels shouldn't be getting caught. Unfortunately, as we all know, not everyone does pay attention in the relevant channels. Similarly many neutral residents of Providence are fairly 'enthusiastic' when it comes to engaging reds (mainly because in general they get eliminated so fast) but do not necessarily appreciate the damage that can be delivered by a Taranis/SB gang, or equip the proper ships to deal with it...

However, while the Genos KB stats may look good their significance/effect on the VAST majority of Provi residents is virtually nil. Anyone thinking that their success in ganking unwary travellers is anyway indicative of the ability of CVA and friends to defend the region from more significant threats need to get their heads examined. In addition, CVA has been focusing on a war dec for the past few weeks - so its fair to say that there has been no real focus on Genos.

Finally, the Legion kill. Congrats! Aralis has a nickname in the CVA which is 'Rambo'. This is because he often takes susbtantial risks against the odds and has a fairly major 'gung ho' streak. If CVA were an alliance that simply focused on killboard efficiencies then this would be quite annoying - however we prefer to have fun with our ships! Over the years Aralis has managed to lose 8 carriers and 2 dreads in similar 'Rambo' moves. However, anyone who knows Aralis will also know that he could probably lose a legion of 'Legions' before it would start to hurt his wallet!

So yeah, good kill, hope you enjoyed the loot and the bragging rights... We will see you around!

Anariel Andurill
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:47:00 - [102]
 

I can't help but notice that hardin's spin is strong in his saving face :)

Tarac Nor
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:47:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Sidephex
genos is obviously doing it wrong! :(


lol, and how did you come to that conclusion, you good at what you do mate, i can say for myself that im trained up mainly for bigger ships, combating you guys is pretty hard going. also to add to the thing about the large BS gatecamps, we are doing our part to try to help make sure that we help secure the region of providence, were not perfect, but i dont see you engaging when there is a large camp hence were not terrible either.

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:48:00 - [104]
 

Hardin did you just double post by accident? Your two posts seem very similar.

Sidephex
I.M.M
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:48:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Hardin
What a fun thread. Smile

Firstly I will state that Genos are good at what they do. The mainly fly Inties and SBs and only engage targets which they can pretty safely gank. They are very good at identifying targets which pose a threat and which can be engaged reasonably safely.

They are basing mainly in about 2/3 systems on the edge of Hi-Sec and they have alts in all the surrounding systems which means that they are aware of potential threats very early and can decide whether or not they want to engage. The nature of their ships means they only have to engage when they want to and locking down Inties and SBs aint exactly easy if they have advance notice of incoming hostiles. Basically they are using simple 'hit 'n run' tactics and doing everything they can to minimise their own losses - which is pretty smart if you are one of those 'KB Efficiency = length of **** size' types of corps.

However, lets look at the larger picture.

While Genos are a nuisance, particularly for solo pilots/traders travelling through those specific systems (which can easily be bypassed) their 'light' nature means they cannot really interdict anyone travelling with a decent escort in the right ships!

Similarly their movements are also well advertised so people who are paying attention in the relevant channels shouldn't be getting caught. Unfortunately, as we all know, not everyone does pay attention in the relevant channels. Similarly many neutral residents of Providence are fairly 'enthusiastic' when it comes to engaging reds (mainly because in general they get eliminated so fast) but do not necessarily appreciate the damage that can be delivered by a Taranis/SB gang, or equip the proper ships to deal with it...

However, while the Genos KB stats may look good their significance/effect on the VAST majority of Provi residents is virtually nil. Anyone thinking that their success in ganking unwary travellers is anyway indicative of the ability of CVA and friends to defend the region from more significant threats need to get their heads examined. In addition, CVA has been focusing on a war dec for the past few weeks - so its fair to say that there has been no real focus on Genos.

Finally, the Legion kill. Congrats! Aralis has a nickname in the CVA which is 'Rambo'. This is because he often takes susbtantial risks against the odds and has a fairly major 'gung ho' streak. If CVA were an alliance that simply focused on killboard efficiencies then this would be quite annoying - however we prefer to have fun with our ships! Over the years Aralis has managed to lose 8 carriers and 2 dreads in similar 'Rambo' moves. However, anyone who knows Aralis will also know that he could probably lose a legion of 'Legions' before it would start to hurt his wallet!

So yeah, good kill, hope you enjoyed the loot and the bragging rights... We will see you around!



redundant ?

Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:51:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Suitonia
Hardin did you just double post by accident? Your two posts seem very similar.


Opps, IE crashed when I tried to post the first reply and I didn't think it had actually posted...

So I rewrote the whole bloody thing and posted it before I saw that the original had gone up. Which is why you got two versions of basically the same thing Razz

Yes RPers are fail! Razz

William DeMeo
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:52:00 - [107]
 

Genos is no. 1

Tarac Nor
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.05.08 10:53:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: William DeMeo
Genos is no. 1


hmmm just a bit of a big ego

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.05.08 11:17:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Tarac Nor
Originally by: William DeMeo
Genos is no. 1


hmmm just a bit of a big ego


I think you just got trolled

Razzor Death
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.05.08 11:20:00 - [110]
 

CVA/pets tears are the best tears.

Good thread.

Suprised they aint dropped 200 bs 100 surport and 5 caps on your inty/sb gang yet Rolling Eyes

Faekurias
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2009.05.08 11:33:00 - [111]
 

Didn't really read much of the OP, but nice bitterish stuff ITT.
Guess you got a successful campaign there, nice writeup.

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.05.08 11:40:00 - [112]
 

We started using covert ops ahead of us to avoid those nasty jumpbridge bubble camp instalocking gangs you do. That 5 Heatsink, 2 tracking enhancer, 3 tracking rig, 4 sensor booster Megapulse abaddon of yours hardin really hurts Twisted Evil

CDLoon
Minmatar
Red Sky Morning
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.05.08 11:46:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Hardin
Opps, IE crashed
Shocked

RP fail spotted Laughing

Install all other browsers, FF, Opera, Safari, Chrome and blob the issue to fix.

Shamefullness
Caldari
Spitoon Asylum
Posted - 2009.05.08 12:05:00 - [114]
 

Quote:
Originally by: Shamefullness
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Nice stats garmon

Shame you forget to post all your losses

Shame on you
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



The Genos Occidere board uses API and all Genos losses are posted.Linkage.




Fair play .........I followed garmons link which doesn't show correctly

Shame on me


Asmodean Reborn
Psykotic Meat
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.05.08 12:53:00 - [115]
 

Good thread.

Hercules Strongarm
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.05.08 13:01:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: CDLoon
Originally by: Hardin
Opps, IE crashed
Shocked

RP fail spotted Laughing

Install all other browsers, FF, Opera, Safari, Chrome and blob the issue to fix.

I had to quote this.

General Coochie
The Bastards
The Bastards.
Posted - 2009.05.08 13:41:00 - [117]
 

I think the KB speaks for itself.

Its funny with ppl smacking you cause you don't wanna engage their blob solo or in a small gang. Why would anyone do that, unless extremely bored?

Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.05.08 14:05:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Suitonia
We started using covert ops ahead of us to avoid those nasty jumpbridge bubble camp instalocking gangs you do. That 5 Heatsink, 2 tracking enhancer, 3 tracking rig, 4 sensor booster Megapulse abaddon of yours hardin really hurts Twisted Evil


And how do you know about that eh? I haven't lost one of my 'specials' so far this year so its certainly not through a killboard! Razz

Fortiter
APEX ARDENT COALITION
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.05.08 14:05:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Incog Neato
Originally by: Garmon
Originally by: Incog Neato
you dont fight period. you run, then you run some more....


Sure, we do.
Of course, that might have something to do with the carriers you keep warping in our frigates~


stop flying inties and try flying a real ship.... cant help it your only move is run run run hide gank, run run run.
if i had a friggen 1 isk for every time you tards have ran from me . i'd have enough isk to buy a titan and just DD alll your little runbuggy ranis.



Its called guerrilla warfare bud. You just can't give credit where credit is due.. I guess it would be aggravating trying to fight them when your only tactic is to sit in blob made up of 7 alliances with some random cva pilot holding your hands.

Pathetic


Venetian Tar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.05.08 14:07:00 - [120]
 

Could this thread get anymore epic?

*munches popcorn*


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