Posted - 2009.04.29 06:22:00 - [61]

 

Originally by: Aquinzus

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Originally by: Neu Bastian

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Edited by: Neu Bastian on 28/04/2009 23:34:40
Are you not afraid, Slavers, that your pilot base of ten or more times our own has not made a dent in our resolution?

Are you not so afraid, slavers, that you dare not undock untill your counter fleet has reached 3 or more times the size of our own?

Are you not afraid, slaver, that most ships in space seek shelter in POSes or stations when you see us in space?


Every time your intel channels blinks, every time your local coms spike, every time your peace of mind is interrupted by the sole thought of us...That is worth all of our efforts. ****ing on your allies and supporters... well that's just a free gift.

We will not rest until every Matar Woman and Man can call themselves free, and until then you will not know rest, you will not know peace.

Blood for Freedom. We come for our people. :Bloody fist of matar:

Neu

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From what I witnessed first hand, the mighty warriors of the matar ran like women into the night when a smaller force entered to engage you.

And from what I read the mighty Matar do more cloaking pretending they are still relevant than fighting. Stealth bombers and ceptors are the best you can do, then your cause is lost. What are you expecting but a gank in a belt or a hauler jumping into you blindly, that is about all you can scrounge up with such a tactic.

You say they hide from you when you enter local, seems to me you hide from them afraid to engage unless sansha has already done most of the work for you.

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Wow clueless as well as bitter and stupid.

I'm slowly narrowing down in my mind which Providence pet alliance you are in. At the moment I'm definately thinking Sylph.

Posted - 2009.04.30 20:33:00 - [63]

 

CVA's priorities have always been CVA's/ The reality is CVA has gotten fat and bloated. Yes they were once proud warriors of the empire. Yes they had a resolve for victory that was unmatched. Victory at all cost victory at any cost. Now they are soft, slow, bloated.

They rely on holders that short of a few individuals that are not taken too seriously are a waste amongst themselves. Either they are pirates themselves, arrogant, dumb, or just plain innept. Reports abound throughout providence of blues looting from blues whenever they can. Being kicked out of system not wanting to share.

So what does CVA do they pick on unsuspecting low sec corps calling them pirates. Red gangs freely run through their systems bubbling their stations, and UK cloaks on.

They complain to UK about cloaking up and waiting and attacking, when least expected or complaicent. Yet they can not stop it. UK now has soveriegnty in lower catch they have for awhile but what does CVA and co. do? Nothing.

Propaganda flies back and forth between two parties long hated enemies and the reality is as always neither is right and neither is wrong. Slavery exists because those minmatars choose to be enslaved. Blame drugs all you want but why not die before enslavement. UK claims they are there fighting for the freedom of all slaves but we know that not to be true. Maybe at one time it was but they themselves have become dis-illusioned (apologize for spelling) about what their true goals are. Freedom may have been the root of it now they are perverted by hatred.

The old guard is dying off. Long gone are the days of seeded rivarly. Now the newer pilots know not why the fight exists, only it does. And Sylph still in the middle of two sworn enemies. Lost without an identity of their own. Forced into silence by a doddering old man. The only response they have for themselves is "Sylph does not reply on galnet or other sources" I have tried to get answers from them and it is of no avail.

So where does this leave us. Back at the beginning. CVA attacked someone simply because they felt like it. Just like they attacked 626 when they felt like it. For overwhelming evidence they refuse to show publicly.

Posted - 2009.05.01 05:22:00 - [65]

 

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Our guys are just carebearing, building up our skills, isk, and reserves so one day were able to compete.

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Is that not what U'K is doing? Building up skills, ISK, reserves, allies, etc. so that they may one day defeat their arch-nemesis, CVA?

People can complain about cloaking and hit & run tactics just as they can complain about overpowering a force with superior numbers. Both tactics are effective.

It befuddles me that someone such as yourself who does not even fight can claim to know the realities and art of war. Continue to hide behind your masters and keep your mouth shut until you are "able to compete" whenever that day comes.

Posted - 2009.05.01 21:04:00 - [67]

 

Amok Raktar (and others confused about the situation), let me try to clarify things for you.

To CVA, there are only two types of pilots in space: those who serve CVA, and pirates. This, by the way, is a concept taken directly from the Empire that spawned them, the leadership of which believes there are only two types of people in the universe: those who serve the Amarr Empire, and rebelious slaves.

The choice falls to you; will you be an obediant slave, or will you stand up against those who seek to enslave you?

Posted - 2009.05.01 22:53:00 - [69]

 

This thread should be labelled "I wish I could choose weither I'm red or blue to CVA".

Posted - 2009.05.02 11:22:00 - [71]

 

Originally by: Invelious

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Originally by: Becq Starforged

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Amok Raktar (and others confused about the situation), let me try to clarify things for you.

To CVA, there are only two types of pilots in space: those who serve CVA, and pirates. This, by the way, is a concept taken directly from the Empire that spawned them, the leadership of which believes there are only two types of people in the universe: those who serve the Amarr Empire, and rebelious slaves.

The choice falls to you; will you be an obediant slave, or will you stand up against those who seek to enslave you?

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Basically UK doesnt like people freely flying through their enemies space, CVA opens their space to all people to freely mine, rat, plex use their facilities and markets. Yes, this in turn benefits CVA, but yes, it benefits you pod pilots also. UK is ****ed because they have nothing, and if they had anything they wouldnt share it, like how CVA is doing.

Even if your a impartial neutral flying through CVA space without doing anything to assist or benefit CVA, they would kill you if they see you.

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Which sounds more like Piracy to me than freedom fighting, I mean if you wanted to fight for freedom, you would actually fight to free your people, not kill random anyones who flies through some space because of your delusional thought of freedom fighting.

Seems to me you would gain more support from those people you dont kill than if you killed them just for being in CVA space, then you wonder why you have a blob chasing you everytime you come in.

Posted - 2009.05.02 11:35:00 - [73]

 

Ushra'Khan had absolutely nothing to do with Mr. Raktar's POS. Please stay on track with the OP and take your inane bitterness elsewhere. Feel free to start a new thread to sound ridiculous in.

Posted - 2009.05.04 07:13:00 - [75]

 

It's always amusing reading Galnet about CVA claiming other organisations are pirates when they harbor many of them in their own ranks.

Posted - 2009.05.04 12:31:00 - [77]

 

Originally by: Suitonia

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Originally by: 666Devious

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Stuff about Dark Taboo working with KOS organisations

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Dark Taboo goes deeper than that. They also pirate in Amarr space. They have been spotted several times canbaiting/canflipping in Tash-Murkon prime outside the station, as well as suicide ganking neutrals in Tash Murkon too. I would have thought this is inappropriate behaviour for someone who had declared themselves to fight for amarrian justice in joining TheCitadel.

After a quick 10 minute check on the largest database of CONCORD records of ship destruction

• Neutral Omen Canflipped and killed
  Oh nice, TheCitadel member canflipped and killed!!



• Suicide attack on neutral makinaws... I think this one might even be a member of TheCitadel as well!
  Another neutral makinaw suicide ganked in amarrian highsec



• Piracy In Derelik, TheCitadel member down Amusingly enough, AR are a member of TheCitadel as well , and Gomati is clearly in the realm of your 'operation deliverance' (which recently expanded to derelik did it not) and 2 jumps out of G-5EN2. If that wasn't enough, another TheCitadel member down in Derelik. There are also several neutrals in minor ships like cyno ships, ratting cruisers/destroyers etc. that have fallen victim to them.

It also seems to me that they arn't getting many kills (outside their own area) on KOS organisations, and their participation in defence fleets in the Providence region is next to non-existant.

Of course, Nothing pleases me more than useless slaver dogs killing themselves.

One has to wonder what Dark Taboo is giving CVA/Sylph (Isk? Ice? Other resources?), considering they own a system in Providence allied Catch, surronded by Sylph space. When they are regulary causing havoc and hampering amarrian justice. Why is a useless entity like Dark Taboo (they certainly arn't participating in Providence Fleets, and cause more damage to TheCitadel than they do to KOS organisations in Providence) holding space that could be in the hands of a much more deserving and needing alliance like sev3rance. And why, despite loads of condemning evidence against them, do they remain non-KOS to CVA.
I found tons of stuff in a 10 minute search, and I'm sure CVA must have heard things from other TheCitadel members considering quite a few of them have been popped by Dark Taboo.

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please use the proper lines to file a KOS request! thank you

Posted - 2009.05.05 01:50:00 - [79]

 

Nope, But they have can flipped TheCitadel members.

Posted - 2009.05.05 05:53:00 - [81]

 

After doing some research, Dark Taboo do seem to be Pirates, even descriptions of thier corps say they are Pirates.

Seems they even used to own some space that boarders with Sylph and CVA, but they dont own it any more. Maybe Sylph kicked them out of it.

But what is this Citadel you speak of? You mean the region?

And it is a good question, if indeed they are not on the KOS, unless they have been some sort of Diplomacy that has taken place, maybe they have not been set KOS because of that.

Posted - 2009.05.05 08:59:00 - [83]

 

Originally by: Aquinzus

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After doing some research, Dark Taboo do seem to be Pirates, even descriptions of thier corps say they are Pirates.

Seems they even used to own some space that boarders with Sylph and CVA, but they dont own it any more. Maybe Sylph kicked them out of it.

But what is this Citadel you speak of? You mean the region?

And it is a good question, if indeed they are not on the KOS, unless they have been some sort of Diplomacy that has taken place, maybe they have not been set KOS because of that.

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"TheCitadel" is the name of the intelligence channel that is used by the Providence holders and the majority of the people who reside there under CVA's policy.

Posted - 2009.05.05 13:48:00 - [85]

 

So Dark Taboo, self admitted pirates, are considered law abiding citizens of providence and catch? Then it seems that you don't need anyone's help here to smear CVA's name.

Posted - 2009.05.05 16:07:00 - [87]

 

Originally by: Hardin

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The CVA does not conduct its diplomacy in public.

Suffice to say that Dark Taboo, like many other law abiding residents of Providence and Catch, pays no 'rent' to CVA nor owes CVA any obligation other than to behave in a law abiding fashion.

As the 'Deliverance' region encompases such a large area with a significant population then there will always be mistakes and errors made. The CVA and our friends do what we can to minimise such mistakes and rest assured that action is taken when such mistakes are brought to CVA's attention even if you may not see the results published on GalNet.

As Amarrians we believe in redemption. Many formerly lawless pilots now conduct honest business in Holy Amarrian Providence and even work with us to ensure the security of the area against terrorists, such as Ushra'Khan, who seek nothing more than mindless slaughter in pursuit of their failed ideology and piratical anarchist types, such as Suitonia, who seek to destroy the civilisation that we are building.

This entire GalNet discussion is nothing more than a bitter attempt to smear CVA's good name orchestrated by the usual rabble of vengeful failures.

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Someone has been reported for piracy in your seemingly controlled space outwith of providence & catch .
Now didnt a certain "small corp !" just find there pos removed for said activities Mr Hardin ?.
Quite a few "mistakes!", have been reported by your citadel members of Dark Taboo,s activities in piracy .
You share intel , fleets , logistics & Dark Taboo use your space freely .
Now forget the fact I,m U'K for a second if you can Hardin , forget the spin and face your demons ,respect these peoples right to an honest answer .
One day they could be the kind of customers you are wanting/needing , call it free advertisement , so one day they too can swallow your dream .

Posted - 2009.05.05 20:11:00 - [89]

 

Originally by: Hardin

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As I said above we don't do diplomacy in public.

The CVA has taken action and the incidents highlighted here shouldn't happen again. If they do then CVA will take further action.

As to what that action is, I will leave it up to the conspiracy theorists here to propose their own wild theories!

The CVA, our Holder allies and the loyalist Amarrian Corporations, have over the past five years developed the only civilised, generally secure area of 0.0 in the EVE Galaxy and indeed opened it up to all comers. The reason for this success is that our actions have been guided constantly by Amarrian principles and ethics.

Over 10,000 capsuleers are now associated either directly or indirectly in the success of 'Operation Deliverance' - the enforcement of Amarrian law and order on Providence, low-sec Domain, Derelik and parts of Catch. It is no surprise therefore that unfortunate 'incidents' happen from time to time. Indeed I have no doubt that some of these 'incidents' are even instigated by enemies of the CVA and the Amarr Empire.

Despite this the CVA and our allies diligently pursue our duties as lawful guardians of the region and indeed zealously investigate all such incidents. We are not beholden to anyone other than the Empress to report on our investigations and actions. We rule as we see fit for the benefit of the majority of law-abiding citizens and if that irks terrorists and pirates then so much the better!

I have no doubt that mistakes occasionally happen but in general the system works and everyone prospers - other than those who seek to sow anarchy, despair and destruction!

Amarr Victor

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A fine speech Hardin , conspiracy theory you say ?.
Hard facts were shown as proof , maybe you havent taken the situation serious enough if you wallow in paranoia , and play the conspiracy theory card
Time will tell Hardin ...good day to you, and hopefully see you on the battlefield .