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Caassimolar
Posted - 2009.03.24 15:47:00 - [1351]
 

Originally by: Wideen
how about no


how about you are a bob pet and don't really have your own opinion so we are just going to ignore you?

paracidic
High Venture Team
Red Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.24 15:47:00 - [1352]
 

Originally by: Slaveone
In another demonstration of developer misconduct CCP renamed Kenzoku to Band of Brothers Reloaded. This has never been done for an alliance, character, or corporation, ever.

Please vote up to disband BOBR.





Just ask Haargoth to disband it.

Jeager
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.03.24 15:47:00 - [1353]
 

1 game 1 rule

Derek Shmawesome
We Know Derek

Posted - 2009.03.24 15:48:00 - [1354]
 

Supported because the "explanation" is even more fail than the renaming itself.

:facepalm:

Davthalas
Gallente
The Scope

Posted - 2009.03.24 15:49:00 - [1355]
 

**** you ccp

ReD PartiZan
ICE is Coming to EVE
Tau Ceti Federation
Posted - 2009.03.24 15:49:00 - [1356]
 


Dr Lovemuscle
Posted - 2009.03.24 15:56:00 - [1357]
 


Killer128
Gallente
Battlestars
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.03.24 15:56:00 - [1358]
 

no matter how this become to be, but it should not happen.

Who ever made this has to realize it was a mistake to give preferred treatment to anyone on the game. This is a complete denial of the premise of a living universe where every single action has a consecuence on the way the Universe and on the players.

Stalina
Gallente
Serious Business Incorporated
Posted - 2009.03.24 15:58:00 - [1359]
 

Originally by: Caassimolar
Originally by: Wideen
how about no


how about you are a bob pet and don't really have your own opinion so we are just going to ignore you?


Hey, how many alts did you create just to get the votes up on this one?

Quintadecimani
Posted - 2009.03.24 15:58:00 - [1360]
 


Robapin
Gallente
Section XIII
Cursed Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.24 15:58:00 - [1361]
 

+1

Tar'an Tula
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.03.24 15:59:00 - [1362]
 

the former members of BoB CHOSE KenZoku as their alliance name. no other alliance has ever been able to change theirs, and thus, CCP allowing KenZoku to get rid of their terrible name for an even more terrible name is unacceptable. this not only continues to prove CCP's favoritism towards this terrible alliance, but sets a bad precedent of changing alliance names. CCP needs to undo this change and make the members of KenZoku either lose their Sov and change the name by making a new allian ce (the way the game is supposed to work) or keep the terrible name the chose for themselves (something every other player in EvE who made a terrible name has to deal with).

Anteia
Posted - 2009.03.24 15:59:00 - [1363]
 


Jago Kain
Amarr
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:01:00 - [1364]
 

Edited by: Jago Kain on 24/03/2009 16:01:24
meh....

Karezan
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:03:00 - [1365]
 

Originally by: Yonker
Edited by: Yonker on 24/03/2009 14:20:12
Edited by: Yonker on 24/03/2009 14:19:43
Originally by: Karezan
Which is probably the exact reason why the rename was allowed. They had to emergency reform in a (now proven to be pointless) attempt to start regaining sov right away. They did not have adequate time to pick a new name for their alliance, and ended up being allowed a rename because of this (or at least I believe this to be the thought process behind it).

I'm guessing the key thing here is that they did lose all sov and pay 1b when BoB was disbanded. They requested this change at the time, and it took 2 months for GM's to decide. They just didn't form under the new name they wanted, because they didn't have time to. Yes it's still an exception to the rules, but they did suffer the downsides (paying another 1b and losing all sov), even if they never planned for it. I'm guessing that's where the 2 month comment comes from, the loss of sov was 2 months ago (at the time of the petition), and the decision was only made now.


So you're saying if they waited to re-form their Alliance... the consequence would have been that they would have lost Sov correct?

In order to re-form quickly they had to use this already created Alliance with a different name, right?

So, they had a choice... either lose Sov, or lose their name. They made a choice to keep sov.

So what rule is it that says if you don't like the consequence of your decision... CCP will adjust the game to fit your needs? I'm sure A LOT of scammed people would like to petition CCP under this new rule of "Not having to take responsibility for your actions".


You're arguing semantics. I'm sure you're well aware of the fact they lost all their sov 3/4, considering it was a big factor in Goonswarm conquering Delve. Whether they made a new alliance, or used Kenzoku, the sov 1 thing should have happened either way. The requirement for sov 1 is that the towers have been anchored for at least 7 days, not that they have been anchored for 7 days under the current alliance tag, which is exactly why Kenzoku regained sov 1 the DT after the disband.

So yes, they did lose their sov, because in this context, when talking about lost sov, it means losing sov 2/3/4, not sov 1, which would come back the first DT after the alliance reform either way.

Yuu Tzar
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:04:00 - [1366]
 


Dr Aurora
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:04:00 - [1367]
 

oh my goodness.. you guys cry WAYYYY too much... wahh wahh wahh

For the slow people out there I do not support this. grow up.

sylverdicate
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:06:00 - [1368]
 

Edited by: sylverdicate on 24/03/2009 16:20:40
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Sentry Falloff
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:06:00 - [1369]
 

Edited by: Sentry Falloff on 24/03/2009 16:20:52
Edited by: Sentry Falloff on 24/03/2009 16:06:19
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Dareia Apatis
Imaginary Design And Production Pty Ltd

Posted - 2009.03.24 16:07:00 - [1370]
 

This name change is dodgier than the navy issue Drake I'm trying to sell.

WARPIGG
Caldari
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:08:00 - [1371]
 

Originally by: Dr Aurora
oh my goodness.. you guys cry WAYYYY too much... wahh wahh wahh

For the slow people out there I do not support this. grow up.

Shockedshut up *****!

Stalina
Gallente
Serious Business Incorporated
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:10:00 - [1372]
 

Originally by: WARPIGG
Originally by: Dr Aurora
oh my goodness.. you guys cry WAYYYY too much... wahh wahh wahh

For the slow people out there I do not support this. grow up.

Shockedshut up *****!


ShockedCry more *****!

PMolkenthin
TunDraGon
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:11:00 - [1373]
 


Tom Gunn
Caldari
Defiant..
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:12:00 - [1374]
 

GM's/Dev's have a responsibility to be fair and impartial. They should not be getting involved.

If the way Goonswarm took down BoB was legitimate, BoB should not be given 'outside' help, they should have to fight using the tools all players have at their disposal. If they want to rename their alliance, then let them do it via the same options every player has available to them.

If Goons cheated or used an illegal exploit to take down BoB, the servers should of been rolled-back, Goons disbanded and their leadership banned permanently as an example of what happens to cheats.


JJbrady312
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:16:00 - [1375]
 


Mytheos
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:17:00 - [1376]
 

Originally by: Barstander
I don't care about in-game politics, I don't really know any of the players in this. What I do care about is that rules exist and they are consistently enforced. No game, not EvE, not baseball, not football, nor Monopoly, can long survive if the rules are changed to the benefit of one player(s) over another without accountability.

Now we get to see if CSM and IA is actually CCP being serious about watching over this game or if it truly was a publicity stunt.

This.

WARPIGG
Caldari
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:18:00 - [1377]
 

Originally by: Stalina
Originally by: WARPIGG
Originally by: Dr Aurora
oh my goodness.. you guys cry WAYYYY too much... wahh wahh wahh

For the slow people out there I do not support this. grow up.

Shockedshut up *****!


ShockedCry more *****!

IdeaU shut up too *****Rolling Eyes

Ash Donai
Minmatar
Kanu Industries
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:18:00 - [1378]
 

Rename them back to Kenny, then let them disband and recreate if they want another name. I mean WTF, really?!? What happened to internal affairs keeping track of BS like this?

Rayzol
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:19:00 - [1379]
 

Edited by: Rayzol on 24/03/2009 16:19:34
Edited by: Rayzol on 24/03/2009 16:19:24
My first post after 1 yr of eve playing... (besides tech. support)
So imagine how i feel about this.

Tyger Maul
Posted - 2009.03.24 16:22:00 - [1380]
 

1 game...1 set of rules for all.


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