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Potrero
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2009.03.19 17:52:00 - [1]
 

Hi,

Need help placing a safespot maybe 30 AU outside of a given system. I'm stashing stuff that I don't want anyone to find.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks

Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Mordus Angels
Posted - 2009.03.19 17:54:00 - [2]
 

I'll show you one .. I promise no one will find it ...

Kary Savage
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.19 17:55:00 - [3]
 

You cant

Wet Ferret
Posted - 2009.03.19 17:56:00 - [4]
 

Have someone fly a probe there, probe down their probe. Go to it.

Theoretically this should work, but I'm not sure. I've only heard you can probe down other players' probes, not tried it.

Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
Posted - 2009.03.19 17:59:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Wet Ferret
Have someone fly a probe there, probe down their probe. Go to it.

Theoretically this should work, but I'm not sure. I've only heard you can probe down other players' probes, not tried it.
no results from probes. at all. although an entire filter group is dedicated to that

not a bug, they say

Icekubez
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.03.19 18:01:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Potrero
Hi,

Need help placing a safespot maybe 30 AU outside of a given system. I'm stashing stuff that I don't want anyone to find.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks


There is a trick where you asign fighters and do something that makes them warp off somewhere, they will warp off and stop at the maximum distance (on the edge) of a system generally making u much harder to scan down ( but not impossible )

make a safe and lay down a secure container and stuff ur gear in there.

Will find out from the guy that made the crazy safes i got awhile ago and post later

Nareg Maxence
Gallente
Posted - 2009.03.19 18:37:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Icekubez
Originally by: Potrero
Hi,

Need help placing a safespot maybe 30 AU outside of a given system. I'm stashing stuff that I don't want anyone to find.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks


There is a trick where you asign fighters and do something that makes them warp off somewhere, they will warp off and stop at the maximum distance (on the edge) of a system generally making u much harder to scan down ( but not impossible )

make a safe and lay down a secure container and stuff ur gear in there.

Will find out from the guy that made the crazy safes i got awhile ago and post later

I have heard this as well. You let them chase after a ship and have the ship warp away and then recall the fighters. The fighters supposedly takes a big detour on their way back and if with a bit of luck you can scan them down at the far reaches of the system. I think pre-apochribba it may have worked, but I have not tried it myself. Now, with the new system, the problem is you need more than one probe to scan them down and it may be next to impossible to get a 100% hit on the first attempt. Assuming the fighter will be gone the next time you try to scan and that they don't make the same detour the next time you try it, it may be impossible to make deep safes now.

If we begin to talk feature requests, I think it would be really cool if scan results with less than 100% strength were warpable. You obviously might land far away from your actual target, but that would still add a new dimension to the scanning system and it would make space feel more open, instead of the boxed in feeling that you are left with with the current system.

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2009.03.19 18:41:00 - [8]
 

Probing probes is not possible, has been intentionally disable to prevent just that scenario ..

moveable probes + possible probing = instant deep safe.

Due to speeds needed to actually travel long distances a safe that far out is not viable (would take a year or so to go 1AU at 5km/s).

I usually make my can-safes somewhere off grid, ie. warp to sun jettison something and head into the sun until jet-can disappears and bookmark spot. You now have a spot that another person needs probes to find if he doesn't know it is there.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2009.03.19 18:41:00 - [9]
 

Log in, log out, log in, log out,.....
repeat 150 times per AU.
There: Deep safespot.

Nareg Maxence
Gallente
Posted - 2009.03.19 18:50:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
Log in, log out, log in, log out,.....
repeat 150 times per AU.
There: Deep safespot.

Brownian motion

Maria Kalista
Amarr
Knights of Kador
Posted - 2009.03.19 18:53:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Nareg Maxence
Originally by: Abrazzar
Log in, log out, log in, log out,.....
repeat 150 times per AU.
There: Deep safespot.

Brownian motion


It never seizes to amaze me with what you guys can come up with using the engine behind EvE. Shocked

Abrazzar
Posted - 2009.03.19 18:53:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Nareg Maxence
Originally by: Abrazzar
Log in, log out, log in, log out,.....
repeat 150 times per AU.
There: Deep safespot.

Brownian motion

Well, at least you'll end up *somewhere*.Razz

Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Mordus Angels
Posted - 2009.03.19 18:57:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
Well, at least you'll end up *somewhere*.Razz


Somewhere Brownian? Shocked

Jarna
Amarr
Air EVE
Posted - 2009.03.19 18:58:00 - [14]
 

You can make bookmarks while warping.
These bookmarks may be along direct warp routs between warpgates/stations, but they would still be hard to find and very far from anyone easily reaching them.

Potrero
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2009.03.19 19:43:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
Log in, log out, log in, log out,.....
repeat 150 times per AU.
There: Deep safespot.
Eeesh...

The problem is that these new scan probes have a 256 AU max radius. I want to leave ships in system for days on end (you won't believe the effort involved in getting set up where I am).

Anyone wandering into this system could cause me all sorts of problems with the right scan probes.

Doesn't sound like there's a way to protect against it.

AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
Druuge Crimson Corporation
Posted - 2009.03.19 19:49:00 - [16]
 

Probe out someone useing an old-school DSS. YARRRR!!

Mekela
Posted - 2009.03.19 19:49:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Mekela on 19/03/2009 19:51:09
Get a stealth bomber, get on right after dt. Start flying away cloaked. BM position right before dt. Fly back to bm right after dt, start flying away..... Not sure how long it will take but a year or 2 you should be pretty far away.

Berilac
Amarr
Northern Intelligence
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.03.19 19:56:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Mekela
Edited by: Mekela on 19/03/2009 19:51:09
Get a stealth bomber, get on right after dt. Start flying away cloaked. BM position right before dt. Fly back to bm right after dt, start flying away..... Not sure how long it will take but a year or 2 you should be pretty far away.

Assuming flying 24/7 at 2km/s it would take you about 2.4 years to go 1 au, or to get a good dss at ~300au, you would have to fly for 720 years or so. So, no, that's not a great way to do it.

Why not anchor a pos?

Iria Ahrens
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.03.19 20:40:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Potrero
Hi,

Need help placing a safespot maybe 30 AU outside of a given system. I'm stashing stuff that I don't want anyone to find.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks


Get an inty with max rigs implants and speed modules.

point in the direction you want to go. Hit the MWD. go to sleep. Wake up, bookmark.

Karrade Krise
Posted - 2009.03.19 20:43:00 - [20]
 

Bend her all the way over, lean back, and ease it in, when it feels you can't go any further, latch onto her love handles and ram it home.

Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Mordus Angels
Posted - 2009.03.19 20:52:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Karrade Krise
Stuff



But is it safe?

Iria Ahrens
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.03.19 21:05:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Eventy One
Originally by: Karrade Krise
Stuff



But is it safe?


use protection?

z0de
The Bastards
The Bastards.
Posted - 2009.03.19 22:27:00 - [23]
 

As you can't probe a can, just make a half decent safe and don't spend along time near it.

Dimitrios Ypsilanti
Posted - 2009.03.19 22:41:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Eventy One
Originally by: Karrade Krise
Stuff

But is it safe?
But have you ever really done this?

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2009.03.19 22:46:00 - [25]
 

You pretty much can't anymore.

I have some deep safespots 50+ AU off a system which were from the times when you could fly that far after a few downtimes with stupid speed setups.

Jimer Lins
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.03.19 23:26:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: AKULA UrQuan
Probe out someone useing an old-school DSS. YARRRR!!


I probed a Slasher out 600 AU away from the gate in New Eden.

It was named "THERE IS NO END" Laughing


 

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