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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2009.03.19 14:32:00 - [1]
 


One of my goals and reasons to be on this CSM is to improve player-CSM communication, and since I couldn't get in touch with YARR and the evelopedia, all the CSM related content is currently hosted on my private server. Hopefully it can get moved in the future though.

All content from CSM 1 is now finally integrated and the issue part of the wiki is now complete and up to date. Minutes are still in the process of being wikified.

You can now review all old as well as ongoing CSM issues, see what the CSM is currently discussing, and nag the CSM if your pet issue isn't on the discussion list for the next meeting. Laughing
Most of the old issues have a link to the minutes with CCPs answers, and work is in progress to get the new minutes integrated as well.

VIEW THE SITE HERE

It goes as follows.

If a CSM member wants to raise an issue, it goes into the Open Issues category, which means it will get discussed and voted on the next meeting. Once it has passed the vote, it goes in Issues in Process, where it will remain until CCP dealt with it. If it fails the vote, it goes to Rejected Issues. Resolved Issues are the ones that CCP has answered.

You can also view who raised what here.

Please see if your topic has been raised already before posting new threads. Just do a search on keywords, or view all topics here.

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2009.03.19 14:33:00 - [2]
 

reserved just in case.

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.19 14:47:00 - [3]
 

Thread stickied Cool

Ahro Thariori
Posted - 2009.03.21 17:22:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Ahro Thariori on 21/03/2009 17:23:01
edit: fixed closing bracket of quote.

Thank you for that wiki, been reading it the last hour. Two humble concerns:

Quote:
If a CSM member wants to raise an issue, it goes into the Open Issues category, which means it will get discussed and voted on the next meeting. Once it has passed the vote, it goes in Issues in Process, where it will remain until CCP dealt with it. If it fails the vote, it goes to Rejected Issues. Resolved Issues are the ones that CCP has answered.



a) some issues categorizied as "rejected" seem to have been rejected by CCP not by the CSM, e.g. Dynamic Agent Quality was turned down by CCP in session 1-2. Or was this particular issue a resubmit and has thus been turned down by the CSM for being turned down by CCP before? Anyways, the categorization doesn't seem natural to anyone not very familiar to the mechanics of the CSM and CCP-CSM processes. First of all, the ordering on the wiki page

Quote:
Open Issues
Issues in Process
Resolved Issues
Rejected Issues
Issues that made it In-game


isnt the order of how things are done. "Rejected" should be above "in process". Having "rejected" beneath "resolved" implies "rejected" having been rejected by ccp.
Which brings me to: second, "resolved" should be sub-categorized into maybe "taken into by ccp, high on priority-list/already worked on", "taken into by ccp, but put on back-log", "rejected by ccp". These infos are ofc in the minutes, but having them on the front page/with the issue list would make accessing that info alot easier and thus could help reduce re- and re-re-submissions of issues.

b) In light of this (easier information access), I would like to see the CSM-votes on CSM-"rejected" issues shown as they are shown on the "resolved" issues. Thus I could base my next vote not only on who brought an issue up to CCP but also on who prevented an issue (that I might care for or might dare) to be brought up. I could then check my own judgement of that issue against the judgement of my representatives and determine who is most/least in line with my train of thought. Again this info is already in the CSM-minutes but not as easily accessible.

I realize that the wiki is work in progress, so take the above as humble proposals and keep up the good work! Very Happy

- Ahro

Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.
Posted - 2009.03.22 20:34:00 - [5]
 

Its missing a few...

Sisi boost idea isn't listed but only had a quick look.

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2009.04.01 07:51:00 - [6]
 

Just wanted to give a big "thank you" to Ankh for setting this all up. This is a genuinely useful site for when I want to check out what the CSM has done in the past, and is probably the best CSM information page going - oddly, in some ways it's even a lot better than the actual CSM forums themselves. I hope it continues effectively(whether on your site, Evelopedia, or somewhere else) for a very long time.

Nidhiesk
Posted - 2009.04.14 16:39:00 - [7]
 

search forum doesn't work anymore... but yeah, wiki works

Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2009.06.14 21:16:00 - [8]
 

The eve wiki ( http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/CSM ) is now used for CSM matters.

You can find the minutes, votes, issues raised, etc. in there.

Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
Posted - 2009.06.24 02:51:00 - [9]
 

AHHHHHH you've changed sites........

Update links?

solo 49er
Posted - 2009.07.01 00:57:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: solo 49er on 01/07/2009 01:28:44
Edited by: solo 49er on 01/07/2009 00:58:54
Well... lets just see what type of reply I get here... (hopefully from CCP)

ON 2 Jan 09, Issue ID #0201-12-0110 was submitted by the Honorable CSM Tusko_Hopkins called "Bookmark my Ship"
http://evajobse.net/csmwiki/index.php/Bookmark_my_ship

My understanding was this was raised, passed vote, agreement reached with CCP, and was to be implemented... (in the future) told to me directly by Mr Hopkins

Any action or plans to report regarding this issue?






Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2009.07.29 16:43:00 - [11]
 

I can't find the Delayed Local issue on either of the sites.

Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.
Posted - 2009.08.13 16:49:00 - [12]
 

Issues are still missing..

Is this being updated or forgotten?

fuze
Gallente
Quam Singulari
Posted - 2009.08.15 10:59:00 - [13]
 

The wiki is infested by spambots and the like.

Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
Sarum Industries
Posted - 2009.08.24 11:37:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Miyamoto Uroki on 24/08/2009 11:38:32
Wiki has become useless. Spam bots are littering the posts history, so no undo anymore.

CSM, do something about it...


Can't it simply be merged into the eve-online wiki? So it wouldn't be your task to keep the wiki software patched etc...

jemos
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2009.09.15 17:35:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator
Thread stickied Cool


Not going to be a wise ass. But out of curiosity, what happened with the sticky on this thread?

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2009.09.15 20:03:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: jemos
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Thread stickied Cool


Not going to be a wise ass. But out of curiosity, what happened with the sticky on this thread?


Replaced by the new sticky thread.

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.09.15 21:36:00 - [17]
 

Zymurgist strikes again?


 

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