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Terena Darkeen
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.03.16 20:23:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Terena Darkeen on 18/03/2009 05:25:25
Hello everyone and thanks for visiting my thread on the CCP Challenge.

I'll quickly introduce how this video came about and then explain a little about the CCP Challenge.

Introduction
Roughly a month ago I split up with my (now ex) girlfriend. We'd been together for roughly a year or so and we split up for various different reasons.

So being the spiteful lady that she is, she decided to let herself into my house and steal my laptop computer (I presume my housemate let her in). This laptop actually belonged to work and it ended up with a totally avoidable criminal investigation. Anyway;

Whilst in posession of my laptop, she used my work email (set up through outlook) to reset my facebook, MSN and Eve online account passwords. Deface the first two and just lock me out of the last.
I managed to regain access to my facebook and MSN, have them restored however due to CCP's backed up customer support, a fortnight down the line my accounts are still suspended.


The Challenge
So, Apocrypha came out this week and I suggested to my new housemate (an old eve player) that we make a couple of trial accounts and have a bit of a mess about. With the release of the box set stating that EVE's "Award winning PVP Environment" values "Tactics over Skill points" we decided to put that to the test.

Could two new trial players really immerse themselves in the eve-online PVP experience straight out of the box?

Logging on for the first time it seems that the rookie help channel and newbcorp channel are awash with comments such as "No one can PVP when they first start playing" and "Every good PVPer has a cashcow behind them" - Those are actual quotes.

Well I'm pleased to say we have completed the video.

Our objectives were to:
  • Become self sufficient, not have to rely on anyone but ourselves for isk to PVP

  • Successfully PVP as soloers and as a duo in a range of scenarios

  • Gain notoriety for our characters within our target region.

  • Lock horns with much older players.

  • Test CCP's theory for new characters


Now, I don't want to give too much away as to the results of this test. But please enjoy the video which is a satirical look at the options available to new pilots and the capabilities what only a 200k skillpoints or so can achieve.


Eve Files: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0903/TheCCPTest_divx_mp3.avi

Notes:
- This thread is posted on behalf of my corpmate who has asked I create this thread. Please see first paragraph!
- This video is not a direct attack on CVA however their space was chosen as it presented best opportunity for us.
- All events in this video actually happened.

Please enjoy the video and all comments welcome :)

T'Karr
Minmatar
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2009.03.16 20:38:00 - [2]
 

Downloading now.

p.s. CPP HURRY UP WITH TESCHANS ACCOUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pelsson
Amarr
FISKL GUARDS
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.03.16 20:52:00 - [3]
 

Yeah CCP gief him his account back and nerf his ex!!

Sleet Rameslay
Muppet Factory
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.03.16 21:24:00 - [4]
 

Great video!!!!!

Maxivo
Actus Reus.
Posted - 2009.03.16 21:33:00 - [5]
 

Im not just bumpin/bigging up your video cos were in the same alliance, but god damn man that was brilliant.

Wonder if the boxxys will view this and then dominate eve in rifters?? MOAR TARGETS :D.

p.s. BRING BACK TESCHAN

Ragna Valdr
Epsilon Lyr
Tau Ceti Federation
Posted - 2009.03.16 21:56:00 - [6]
 

Wow, she really made an effort to make sure you would not regret having split up with her.

Awesome video!

Rag.

Melnick
Gallente
Royal Hiigaran Navy
SCUM.
Posted - 2009.03.17 00:08:00 - [7]
 

Great video bro just goes to show you, that if you got the drive you can make it out there with little sp

Claudia Jefferson
Posted - 2009.03.17 00:41:00 - [8]
 

Really good video :)

Karad Forsky
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.17 00:56:00 - [9]
 

Good try.

Don't think it's testing CCP's claim though as you obviously have a decent amount of (RL, not SP) experience. Would have to both be a new player and have little SP to really have a solid claim there Smile

That said, grats on finding so many targets, even if most of them were confused by the neutral status I suppose. NRDS is pretty easy to exploit sadly. Looks like you had fun.

Armoured C
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2009.03.17 01:52:00 - [10]
 

you sir have earned my respect, use you account as a ecample

Armoured C
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2009.03.17 02:20:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Karad Forsky
Good try.

Don't think it's testing CCP's claim though as you obviously have a decent amount of (RL, not SP) experience. Would have to both be a new player and have little SP to really have a solid claim there Smile

That said, grats on finding so many targets, even if most of them were confused by the neutral status I suppose. NRDS is pretty easy to exploit sadly. Looks like you had fun.


but you have to remember these charater are 2 days old and they are kicking butt

experience you can learn , but with the little amount of SP they have look what they accomplished, they got camped into a station ... at 2 days old!!!!

i feel some some people eppen hurt after this i know mine would if i got pwned by a 2 day old guy

Karad Forsky
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.17 03:05:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Karad Forsky on 17/03/2009 03:09:29
Originally by: Armoured C
but you have to remember these charater are 2 days old and they are kicking butt

Yep, but the actual players themselves aren't 2 days old Razz - they must have a decent grasp of game mechanics to fight in 0.0, even 0.0 as full of new players and as welcoming to new players as Providence

Don't get me wrong, grats to them for getting kills, but we already know Rifters make for good ships when in the hands of a skilled pilot, even with low SP (I seem to remember a vid from a few years back with a solo rifter pirating much bigger ships in lowsec, forget the name)

Just saying it would be more convincing if they weren't alts but actual newbies Smile

edit: found it Linkage

Sadao
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.03.17 03:06:00 - [13]
 

I dont get it, I am only getting the music from the download. WTF?

Terena Darkeen
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.03.17 03:16:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Terena Darkeen on 17/03/2009 03:17:19
Teschan says:

"Thanks for the feedback so far;

This video was created to demonstrate the possibility and either prove or disprove a large selling point for this game upon its boxset launch.

The fact that both Kel Gunrunner and I have been playing this game for a long time and are hopefully knowledgeable or familiar enough with EVE's combat mechanics, hopefully proves the statement that planning and tactics can overcome skillpoint limitations.

True character "Skill" or "PVP Experience" is almost impossible to quantify. Try to think of this video less as "Let's see how well WE do", and instead think of it as "This actually IS possible"

I hope that clears up any issues you have over the motivations for the video."


Sadoo, make sure you have the divx codec installed on your computer - available at www.divx.com



oodin
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.03.17 03:47:00 - [15]
 

Shocked i think we have the same x Laughing

Sadao
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.03.17 04:08:00 - [16]
 

That video truly rocks. Great stuff, well done.

Reminds me of my first days pirating with my old character.

/me rubs chin and thinks up a plan.

Chuck Skull
b.b.k
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2009.03.17 04:45:00 - [17]
 

Nice vid. Shows how much you can do with a couple of frigs. Also Prodigy ftw.

Kil2
Club Bear
The Seventh Day
Posted - 2009.03.17 06:40:00 - [18]
 

so sweet guys, great job!

i hadnt even opened thread until today when bro said what it was about. so glad i did \o/

Italian Wedding
Soup Of The Day
Posted - 2009.03.17 07:15:00 - [19]
 

This can't even come close to what real new players experience. You have previous game experience. You know so much more then any new player could possibly know in two days of playing. Good video and all, but really, this is WAY off what a brand spanking new players with zero experience playing EVE can do.

Arkhan Bayne
Posted - 2009.03.17 09:55:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Karad Forsky
Good try.

Don't think it's testing CCP's claim though as you obviously have a decent amount of (RL, not SP) experience. Would have to both be a new player and have little SP to really have a solid claim there Smile

That said, grats on finding so many targets, even if most of them were confused by the neutral status I suppose. NRDS is pretty easy to exploit sadly. Looks like you had fun.


not at all, the claim is skill, and brains, over skillpoints - this fits just fine with ccp's assertion that you can be effective with a bit of cunning and knowing what you're doing over having l33t SP or whatever the cool kids think they have.

Kil2
Club Bear
The Seventh Day
Posted - 2009.03.17 10:04:00 - [21]
 

and furthermore, theres nothing to stop a new player from beginning to build the experience necessary right away. the point is that skill points and the gear are not the barrier, its just the will to try and learn =D

Sadao
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.03.17 11:05:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Italian Wedding
This can't even come close to what real new players experience. You have previous game experience. You know so much more then any new player could possibly know in two days of playing. Good video and all, but really, this is WAY off what a brand spanking new players with zero experience playing EVE can do.


I see your point but I respectfully have to disagree with you. Heres why, these two guys know about how the game works true, but whats to stop a two day old character getting into a corp that has exp pilots in and doing the same with some guidance from corp mates? Ok, some corps wont take on new pilots, but some will, Like mine for instance. I am not put off by newb questions and newb whines, I like it in fact.

I love this video because it goes a long way to proving CCP right and what I, and others have always known, you can be effective in PvP "out of the box". I shall be making this compulsory viewing for any newbs I come across.




Handon Guild
Toys R Us
Posted - 2009.03.17 11:11:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Handon Guild on 17/03/2009 11:30:28
Downloading.

Nice one! Twisted Evil

MellaRinn
Gallente
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.03.17 11:30:00 - [24]
 

that was an enjoyable watch :)

Osiris Occido
The Nightshift
Posted - 2009.03.18 00:08:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Osiris Occido on 18/03/2009 00:08:21
EDIT: nevermind, **** it

Karin Katari
Minmatar
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.03.18 04:51:00 - [26]
 

My new favorite video. Ever.

♥♥♥

Priceless.

Love,
Karin

Poreuomai
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.03.18 09:53:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Terena Darkeen
This video is not a direct attack on CVA

But your 2 day old characters being KOS to CVA is priceless. Cool

eXeGee
Pink Bunnies
Cartel.
Posted - 2009.03.18 10:03:00 - [28]
 

really interesting vid to watch, but notice you have a lot of ingame experience that noobs dont have :)

afterall this vid confirmes my theory you dont need tons of sp and isks to get some decent pvp, some day you might fly 5h and dont find any proper targets, another day you'll find it after 5min

btw. rifter ftw :p

FU22
The 8th Order
Posted - 2009.03.18 10:19:00 - [29]
 

good video, shame about they didn't kill the orca Very Happy

Dannerkongen
Posted - 2009.03.18 11:06:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Dannerkongen on 18/03/2009 11:17:17
damn the new torrent download feature is teh **** Very Happy lets send some love to chribba

hail chribba


also: abit boring vid! the dualscreen thing makes it impossible to see whats going on. also goint to providence and picking on bears and filming it is fail isnt it? actually i did manage to watch the whole thing.


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