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Topic |
Dan Gleeballs |
Posted - 2009.03.07 23:32:00 - [ 1]
Hey,
Firstly I'll admit to running a few profitable scams in the old escrow days, I'll even admit to losing a few hundred mil to the odd scam in my time too.
But CCP surly the time has come to end it, 75% of local spam in Jita is for scam contracts in one for or another. How I'm happy to block people every time i check out a scam contract but its just getting beyond a joke these days.
I also cant believe your letting players run scams on the 30 day plex cards which are bought for RL currency. Thats just daft whichever way you look at it.
Please think before your reply, i'm keen to hear both sides of the argument but please engage your brain first and respond with a degree of intelligence.
Zipping up the flame suit....
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Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2009.03.07 23:41:00 - [ 2]
As long as people are stupid enough to fall for the common Jita scams, then they'll still exist. If you want to cut down on those scams, why not join the help channel and make sure everyone is aware of them? |
Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It |
Posted - 2009.03.07 23:44:00 - [ 3]
 Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
As long as people are stupid enough to fall for the common Jita scams, then they'll still exist. If you want to cut down on those scams, why not join the help channel and make sure everyone is aware of them?
And while you're at it, poast some scams in there too! Keep the ISD on their pudgy little toes! |
Shiela Te'Kumsa |
Posted - 2009.03.07 23:52:00 - [ 4]
Originally by: Dan Gleeballs
please engage your brain first
likewise |
Commander Predator
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:06:00 - [ 5]
ccp isnt ever going to end it, people shouhld simply be smarter. 90% of the people getting scammed are isk buyers anyway. so scams are like spiders, you hate them but they help so much...and as for the GTC thing if they go and spend 20 bucks on a card and they get scammed because their too careless to look at the contract, thats their own fault... sucks but thats how it goes i guess. |
Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:08:00 - [ 6]
Originally by: Commander Predator
90% of the people getting scammed are isk buyers anyway.
I assume we can quote you on this figure? |
Commander Predator
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:18:00 - [ 7]
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Commander Predator
90% of the people getting scammed are isk buyers anyway.
I assume we can quote you on this figure?
if you REALLY want to... im not sure how true it is but when i scammed they all handed me hundreds of million for absolutely nothing.... they obviously didnt know what they were doing with it. isk buyer or macro or something im not sure, but if you get scammed your probably deservedit all i can say. and omg yes im a scammer ive done it and i love it. |
Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:20:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: Commander Predator
Quote:
im not sure how true it is
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Commander Predator
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:21:00 - [ 9]
Edited by: Commander Predator on 08/03/2009 01:22:38
Dude whats up with your sig im on it its awesome
*edit* seriously not gonna vote for you... |
Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:27:00 - [ 10]
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Commander Predator
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:29:00 - [ 11]
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mikeh24
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
ROMANIAN-LEGION |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:32:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: Commander Predator
Captain Pompous > im gay
If you say Pompous is gay one more time I'll.... I'll poders you cause I won't stand for happy talk in see & pee |
Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:34:00 - [ 13]
i'm gay |
Commander Predator
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:35:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: mikeh24
Originally by: Commander Predator
Captain Pompous > im gay
If you say Pompous is gay one more time I'll.... I'll poders you cause I won't stand for happy talk in see & pee
Tigers have wings? |
Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:35:00 - [ 15]
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
i'm gay
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mikeh24
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
ROMANIAN-LEGION |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:39:00 - [ 16]
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:40:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
i'm gay
QFT, QTIYD |
Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:53:00 - [ 18]
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It |
Posted - 2009.03.08 01:59:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
fanboy trap sprung
kaching |
Xiroas |
Posted - 2009.03.08 02:10:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Dan Gleeballs
Hey,
Firstly I'll admit to running a few profitable scams in the old escrow days, I'll even admit to losing a few hundred mil to the odd scam in my time too.
But CCP surly the time has come to end it, 75% of local spam in Jita is for scam contracts in one for or another. How I'm happy to block people every time i check out a scam contract but its just getting beyond a joke these days.
I also cant believe your letting players run scams on the 30 day plex cards which are bought for RL currency. Thats just daft whichever way you look at it.
Please think before your reply, i'm keen to hear both sides of the argument but please engage your brain first and respond with a degree of intelligence.
Zipping up the flame suit....
Personally, if CCP wow-ifies this game, I will quit; Scamming is beyond fun to do, and is very profitable... Only the carebears, and sore losers whine about it... |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE |
Posted - 2009.03.08 07:16:00 - [ 21]
It's impossible to be scammed if you just pay attention. OP claims he scams people but also says he's been scammed himself. Guess what makes him? Ignorant, frequent drunk, or stupid. This is not a personal attack so don't bother btw, I'm just stating the obvious. Just think for two seconds.. you know how to scam people but you don't know how to avoid being scammed yourself? It's not like there's no tools to defend yourself in EVE. When a contract pops up you do have warning texts, content lists, etc, not to mention that most people that played this game for some time will know that freeform contracts are useless for anything relevant - they're just the 'contract tool for scammers'. I claim it's impossible to be scammed, unless you simply don't know better, or are stupid. What other option would there be? Not paying attention? Now, that'd be stupid, wouldn't it..  |
Dan Gleeballs |
Posted - 2009.03.08 12:15:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: Misanth
It's impossible to be scammed if you just pay attention. OP claims he scams people but also says he's been scammed himself. Guess what makes him?
Ignorant, frequent drunk, or stupid. This is not a personal attack so don't bother btw, I'm just stating the obvious. Just think for two seconds.. you know how to scam people but you don't know how to avoid being scammed yourself?
It's not like there's no tools to defend yourself in EVE. When a contract pops up you do have warning texts, content lists, etc, not to mention that most people that played this game for some time will know that freeform contracts are useless for anything relevant - they're just the 'contract tool for scammers'.
I claim it's impossible to be scammed, unless you simply don't know better, or are stupid. What other option would there be? Not paying attention? Now, that'd be stupid, wouldn't it..
You've completly missed the point I was attempting to make by rushing off on a tanget with your pubesent rant. As the thread was about scamming I wanted to let the community know that I am aware of both side of the argument, before asking the question if things have just gone to far. You Sir, need to, as requested, engage your brain before touching your keyboard and presenting yourself to the community as a hateful little turd. |
Faekurias
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns |
Posted - 2009.03.08 12:20:00 - [ 23]
Edited by: Faekurias on 08/03/2009 12:20:18
There are balls in this thread. People with balls.
I like balls. |
Judgement Dave |
Posted - 2009.03.08 12:20:00 - [ 24]
Lol Misanth got Forum WTFPWNED. |
Faekurias
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns |
Posted - 2009.03.08 12:21:00 - [ 25]
Edited by: Faekurias on 08/03/2009 12:26:49 Originally by: Dan Gleeballs
Originally by: Misanth
It's impossible to be scammed if you just pay attention. OP claims he scams people but also says he's been scammed himself. Guess what makes him?
Ignorant, frequent drunk, or stupid. This is not a personal attack so don't bother btw, I'm just stating the obvious. Just think for two seconds.. you know how to scam people but you don't know how to avoid being scammed yourself?
It's not like there's no tools to defend yourself in EVE. When a contract pops up you do have warning texts, content lists, etc, not to mention that most people that played this game for some time will know that freeform contracts are useless for anything relevant - they're just the 'contract tool for scammers'.
I claim it's impossible to be scammed, unless you simply don't know better, or are stupid. What other option would there be? Not paying attention? Now, that'd be stupid, wouldn't it..
You've completly missed the point I was attempting to make by rushing off on a tanget with your pubesent rant.
As the thread was about scamming I wanted to let the community know that I am aware of both side of the argument, before asking the question if things have just gone to far.
You Sir, need to, as requested, engage your brain before touching your keyboard and presenting yourself to the community as a hateful little turd.
Fail retort failed Brave Sir Dan. You might have had a point about his "rant" if you yourself had left "You Sir, need to, as requested, engage your brain before touching your keyboard and presenting yourself to the community as a hateful little turd." <- this out. But you didn't. Bawww  Edit: Nah, still wouldn't have saved you. xD |
Xenoxide
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2009.03.08 12:24:00 - [ 26]
Originally by: Dan Gleeballs
You've completly missed the point I was attempting to make by rushing off on a tanget with your pubesent rant.
As the thread was about scamming I wanted to let the community know that I am aware of both side of the argument, before asking the question if things have just gone to far.
You Sir, need to, as requested, engage your brain before touching your keyboard and presenting yourself to the community as a hateful little turd.
You sure it's not you who's coming across that way? The guy made a perfectly valid point. Between looking at a contract and actually accepting it there are plenty of opportunities to see if it's a scam or not. By stating that you "know how to scam" you're presenting that you yourself have knowledge of the process, and therefore should know how to avoid them. Just like a lot of things in EVE, scams are fair game. Just like randomly podding someone in 0.4 because you felt like it, or taking apart BoB by defecting to Goonfleet. Or stealing billions in ISK from an ingame bank. All very well known events. I don't think it has gone too far at all. If you've been scammed, feel free to try and scam back. It's all fair game. |
K1RTH G3RS3N
Haunted House
|
Posted - 2009.03.08 14:20:00 - [ 27]
i have never succeeded, been a victim to or even witnessed a successful scam... to me, its just a myth. |
De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing |
Posted - 2009.03.08 14:30:00 - [ 28]
I always trust my mother's advice: "If it seems to good to be true, it probably is."
I do like the people who try and sell one unit of minerals for 100,000,000 ISK by putting false numbers in the contract description though.
I just wish I could block more than 80 of those idiots at a time. |
Inmaculada Divinity |
Posted - 2009.03.08 15:23:00 - [ 29]
Originally by: Dan Gleeballs
I also cant believe your letting players run scams on the 30 day plex cards which are bought for RL currency. Thats just daft whichever way you look at it.
The plex scams mean that the potential buyer is out of pocket, this is not RL currency, this is ISK. The person running the scam has spent RL money on the plex card (or they may have got it for ISK, whatever), but as it's a scam they don't lose it or any RL money. The only person who loses is the victim - which is in ISK (unless the scammer is stupid enough to fluff it up, but that's their fault). The reason it's allowed to continue is because no one is losing any RL cash, only ISK. |
TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band |
Posted - 2009.03.08 16:06:00 - [ 30]
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Commander Predator
90% of the people getting scammed are isk buyers anyway.
I assume we can quote you on this figure?
73% of statistics are made up on the spot. |
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