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CCP Fallout

Posted - 2009.02.25 16:16:00 - [1]
 

Okay, everyone. Please raise your hand if you are tired of your mission agents giving you boring, random missions. Raise them higher if you're just downright annoyed that they give you the same missions over and over and over again. Frankly, we are, too. That's why Apocrypha, our next and most expansive expansion will include a brand new feature: Epic Mission Arcs!

In his newest blog, CCP Molock gives us the 411 on what's in store for epic arcs. Learn how epic arcs will bring an ongoing story into New Eden with branching missions that will bring exciting challenges to both new and old players alike.

KingKenny
Minmatar
Warp Core Tech
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:18:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: KingKenny on 25/02/2009 16:19:21
1st Time I been first ever in nearly 6 years.

So how long before those non noobs can get a challanging epic mission? Weeks, months or longer?

Nora Syrinx
Momentum Corp
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:25:00 - [3]
 

Nice one still a little dissapointment were not getting more missions until some time after the expansion

Newbee
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:25:00 - [4]
 

whoooohooo! nice one ugh

Nerad Tendo
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:27:00 - [5]
 

I'm just happy to be on the first page.

I'm gonna have to dust off my enyo and give this thing a whirl.

This is gonna be sweet ccp!

Where can I go to meet this new agent on SISI?

Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:30:00 - [6]
 

so will this be similar to a "campaign" one finds in other games?

Gamer4liff
Caldari
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:41:00 - [7]
 

So how exactly do you know where to look for these epic agents?

Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:48:00 - [8]
 

Sweet mother of pearl! Its gonna be GRREEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAT!

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:51:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Gamer4liff
So how exactly do you know where to look for these epic agents?

Here is a good start.

CCP Jasonitas

Posted - 2009.02.25 16:51:00 - [10]
 

Quote:
So how exactly do you know where to look for these epic agents?


You'll be referred to the initial Epic Arc agent by another agent. Prep your resume.

Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:52:00 - [11]
 

How tightly bound are the time limits going to be on these mission arcs.

I know several people who have "failed" the current new player mission set because currently a mission set must be completed within one week of requesting the first mission.

Epic Mission Arc will be an Epic Fail if taking off for a week to deal with real life screws up the entire arc.

As much as it might break realism, if you are going to be string together more than a 2 or 3 missions, there needs to be a way to take an extended break without tossing a spanner into the works.

Dan Grobag
Caldari
Grobag's Family
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:52:00 - [12]
 

That look like cosmos missions to me.

el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:54:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: el caido on 25/02/2009 16:57:50
Quote:
Finally, while the rewards for Epic Missions won't be vastly greater than those for normal missions, they will tend to give out cool new toys (or at least exceptional rewards) at the ends of chapters and, of course, at the end of each complete arc.

Can you clarify this please? It almost seems like a contradiction.

CCP Big Dumb Object

Posted - 2009.02.25 16:54:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Ki Tarra
How tightly bound are the time limits going to be on these mission arcs.
Epic Arc missions will not expire.

gordon861
Minmatar
PROGENITOR CORPORATION
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:55:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: gordon861 on 25/02/2009 16:57:23
So they have :
Quote:
Two sprint teams in our Atlanta office have worked concurrently on Epic Missions for months now: One team consisted entirely of programmers, the other of content developers.


And they have produced : from http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1007292&page=2#43
Quote:
For Epic Arcs, what we're delivering on March 10 is actually two things; one is massive new mission arc that's accessible to most players, the other is an entirely new mission mechanic that makes all this possible. That one arc is honestly just the beginning. We have a new mission mechanic and we have a raft of new improvements to what we can do in missions as well - we're definitely going to be using all of this stuff.

Just one arc, for the newbi players to get them started, this patch is sounding more like the NGE every week...

Steve Thomas
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:57:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Steve Thomas on 25/02/2009 17:02:02
Originally by: CCP Jasonitas
Quote:
So how exactly do you know where to look for these epic agents?


You'll be referred to the initial Epic Arc agent by another agent. Prep your resume.
so how many of these are there in developement?

and will they actualy be released by winter expansion this year, or "soon"(tm) along with the Faction war update, industry update and other "soon" items?

gordon861
Minmatar
PROGENITOR CORPORATION
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.02.25 16:58:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Steve Thomas
Originally by: CCP Jasonitas
Quote:
So how exactly do you know where to look for these epic agents?


You'll be referred to the initial Epic Arc agent by another agent. Prep your resume.
so how many of thies are there?


er ... just one

CCP Big Dumb Object

Posted - 2009.02.25 16:59:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: el caido
Quote:

Finally, while the rewards for Epic Missions won't be vastly greater than those for normal missions, they will tend to give out cool new toys (or at least exceptional rewards) at the ends of chapters and, of course, at the end of each complete arc.

Can you clarify this please? It almost seems like a contradiction.
An epic arc is itself broken into chapters. Our first arc, "Blood-Stained Stars", is comprised of 7 chapters, each between 5-10 missions each. Chapters allow us to break the story into discrete chunks of more focused sub-narratives, as well as divide the workload effectively between numerous designers. It also helps us keep a better pace through the arc, both in narrative and in pay-outs.

el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2009.02.25 17:01:00 - [19]
 

I understand the chapters; I am confused by the reward system. Am I to assume that missions won't pay much more than comparable normal missions, but we will receive something special at the end ...? Isn't that a contradiction?

CCP Jasonitas

Posted - 2009.02.25 17:01:00 - [20]
 

Quote:
Quote: Finally, while the rewards for Epic Missions won't be vastly greater than those for normal missions, they will tend to give out cool new toys (or at least exceptional rewards) at the ends of chapters and, of course, at the end of each complete arc. Can you clarify this please? It almost seems like a contradiction.


The Epic Arcs are not randomly generated missions, so if we want to make a story that ends with you receiving, say, a shiny storyline or collector item, we can do that. Hell, we can tune the awards to give you a Titan at the end, if we wanted to. You know, as your reward for saving CONCORD or something. We are telling stories now, strings of stories, and the rewards can be based upon what you do in the story.

el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2009.02.25 17:02:00 - [21]
 

Thanks. Can't wait to see them live.

Dan Grobag
Caldari
Grobag's Family
Posted - 2009.02.25 17:03:00 - [22]
 

How will it work with other players ?

Is it single player minded, can it work in group, can someone come to your epic instance and wreck the outcome ?

Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
Posted - 2009.02.25 17:04:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object

Not only do we get Epic Missions, we get Epic Dev names. Laughing

gordon861
Minmatar
PROGENITOR CORPORATION
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.02.25 17:10:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: el caido
Thanks. Can't wait to see IT live.

Fixed the quote.

Should be fun.

More lag than Jita as 20k Empire Dwellers rush to that one agent to be the first to finish it on the 11th March.

I hope they use this New Mission System more than they used the last New Mission System and actually deliver on the promises.

Macmuelli
Gallente
Meltd0wn
Posted - 2009.02.25 17:12:00 - [25]
 

Will this missions brings us into all 4 faction space to complete them?
And what happend to the players, which have such a negative standings they got follwed, when entering this empire faction systems?
Are there any mods or Riggs, which allows us to go to the enemie faction space to complete it, without getting toasted or followed by the navy on every gate/ place?

A great company/ game and expansion.

looking forward
breg mac

Lieutenant Isis
Caldari
Gristle Industries
Posted - 2009.02.25 17:15:00 - [26]
 

Sounds really cool. Hope CCP can generate a few mission arcs for older players pretty soon!

Steve Thomas
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.02.25 17:19:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: gordon861
Originally by: el caido
Thanks. Can't wait to see IT live.

Fixed the quote.

Should be fun.

More lag than Jita as 20k Empire Dwellers rush to that one agent to be the first to finish it on the 11th March.

I hope they use this New Mission System more than they used the last New Mission System and actually deliver on the promises.
I hate to say this but that would virtualy be a first for CCP since they launched EVE,

De Guantanamo
Posted - 2009.02.25 17:37:00 - [28]
 

First page.

Protip: the word epic is overrated.

Looking forward to testing this out though.

CCP Jasonitas

Posted - 2009.02.25 17:42:00 - [29]
 

Quote:
Will this missions brings us into all 4 faction space to complete them?


Yes, this arc will span all four factions. We don't give you anything special to combat your negative standings in certain Empire space, but I can give you a warning that you shouldn't fly this particular arc if you are worried about getting ganked because of your negative standing.

"Blood-Stained Stars" is geared towards newer players as a chance to see all of EVE in a story-driven context. It'll give them a chance to leave the starter systems and the familiar space and to actually see what the other Empires are like. You can certainly fly this arc as an older player, but if you are worried about your standing, keep that factor in mind.

We have more Epic Arcs to come, and they may be geared to certain factions or Empires. But just like you would not run missions in some Empire space or for certain factions because of your standings, you probably would not run some Epic Arcs for the same reasons.

Steve Thomas
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.02.25 17:48:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: gordon861
Edited by: gordon861 on 25/02/2009 16:57:23
So they have :
Quote:
.


And they have produced : from http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1007292&page=2#43
Quote:
.

Just one arc, for the newbi players to get them started, this patch is sounding more like the NGE every week...
ok you just failed

first the SW NGE explination can be found here

http://www.massively.com/2008/06/26/a-star-wars-galaxies-history-lesson-from-launch-to-the-nge-5/

second at the core nothings realy changed. they did not delete the drones or the ships that use them, they did not re-do the comat system to where its something completly diferent, they did not streamline skill training to where anyone can role up a Jovian and can hop into a Jove titan in your first month and be able to own half of space. . . only to find out that titans = frigates.

they just promised us a ****load of features and yet again failed to deliver on them because they ran out of time and now they have to focus on the NEXT expansion and they will get back to fitting in what they realy wanted to do "Soon".

only this time they made the mistake of useing the word "Epic"



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